Can a Festool vac work well with non-Festool tools? Read this manual to understand this sander. I’m doing the opposite now: using a house vac for shop vacuuming. I have a 4” line from my Oneida dust collection system attached to it. It has great reviews and did not disappoint. is that the trend of things now? OOPPS!!! If your fine sanding, it trends to cake on into the works since the material coming off ends up like flour. Shop this Collection (708) Model# R27401 $ 119 00. Just an addition to oldreddog’s contribution. To answer your question Stuart, the speed control on the CT’s are something i really only concern myself with when I am finish sanding, or doing the final sanding before a finish. One of the notable features of this sander is its dust collection method. Excellent price for a quality product. As with any sander, just watch what you’re doing with a belt sander as you can remove a lot of material very quickly, especially pine. I had the vac turned to automatic and I thought the damn CT22 was broke because I didn’t hear it come on. I know they are expensive, but they live up to all their hype. You can’t put a price on that. Automatic belt tracking (can be overridden) Dust bag; Hook up for vacuum hose; Long power cord! However you said you want ideal setup. Doug, I don’t hate you for using a Porter Cable sander with your Festool vac. I called the "support" line and they don't have any answers, no one there knows how this product is supposed to collect dust. I read someplace that if you can smell it, it’s getting into your lungs. This belt sander never collected anything in the dust bag. The porter cable is quiet enough but more pricey than those you see in the big box stores. Buy a Festool – this will solve all your problems :-) I know that would have been too easy for Marc to say but it is true. I always give honest opinions, findings, and experiences on products. They are very pricey but well worth it. So as long as you can match up the hose to the port, you should be good to go with any standard sander. The Ridgid ZRR2740 has handles with a soft-grip feature to minimize vibration and increase your comfort. It works for a while, but not as effective shaking out the filter frequently. Random Orbital Sander with AIRGUARD Technology. The cheap white ones will rip and break and leave a huge cloud of dust. It might work great or it may not, I just can’t speak on that part. Just remember to run shop vac exhaust port out ext. Stay upwind of the work and you’ll be fine…. I’ve been using full speed but my stock is thin enough that some of the sanders holes are always open. $104.00. I’m guessing 2.5 micron gets most of the sanding dust. Shop this Collection (1071) Model# R26011 $ 64 97. I will NEVER go back. For this design, it is very easy and comfortable for handling and working. little adapters are a fuss some times but worth the effort to find correct fittings to adapt. When I took the sander apart I found the passages for the air to the vacuum fan were plugged up with sawdust so that was cleaned. You have the one time cost of the Dust Deputy, about $180. x 18 in. Many belt sanders have a hoover attachment for dust removal and although it’s not an essential feature it does help keep the work area free from wood dust and anyone who has used a sander will know the dust that comes from sanding becomes airborne and gets absolutely everywhere. If you restrict the 4″ hose of a dust collector down to the size of a sander dust port, you’ll very likely restrict the airflow so much that dust collection is ineffective. If you are going to be doing any work with your belt sander, especially if it is going to be a large project, it is crucial to have proper ventilation with a dust collection attachment.It is not only important for cleanliness, but for your safety and health as well. Any sander with a dust port can technically work with any vac, including those with HEPA filters. I work with a large variety of woods, you name it I’ve used it but I’ve never had this problem with my shop vac or dust collector up until recently. Has soft-grip handles that ensure maximum comfort. The belt tends to slide easily. My shop is virtually empty and homemade can is full best invention I ever made , Some of the connectors haven’t arrived yet but I don’t see why the d.c shouldn’t work well with the sanders…. I was looking to buy one for my uncle a few months back, and saw this difference. Feb 13, 2015 - After reading many favorable reviews of the Ridgid oscillating sander (model # EB44242) and with a 15% rebate offered by the manufacturer, I finally bought this sander as my Christmas present. Any other companies that are selling a complete idea of woodworking / sanding coupled with effective dust removal? That helps keep the filter from cloging. I can’t remember when I last had to empty/replace any shop vac bin/bag let alone clean a filter, however, the Dust Deputies…often.. Its spring-loaded dust bag is an excellent feature of this sander; it has a vacuum system for collecting dust for a long time. The belt sander has never been used. I picked up a new Ridgid belt sander recently. bosch wants a lot for its hepa filter. I have a Delta 2hp dust collector with the HEPA bag and it works great, but (you knew there was a but), sanding is an issue. You can hook up one of those hard collar flex hoses to sit back there, or use a 4x4 dust hood that you can affix to the little end stop that comes with the sander. :-). and if the primary house vacuum (which will never touch the shop) wasn’t my great aunt’s Kirby, I’d be trying this argument as well. The other end fits nicely in both the RO sanders I have (a Dewalt and a Bosch). Cash only. I have a Rigid “shop vac” and they don’t seem to offer a bag for it. In my case, my outfeed table is my assembly table is my sanding table, … So the DC drop which draws dust from the table saw blade guard is very handy. so I adjust it manually. Like the Bosch, the RIDGID’s canvas dust bag attaches to the left-hand side of the sander, but its bag has greater capacity. I have a dust deputy in the corner mounted to the wall with a shop vac. The best thing about this PORTER-CABLE 382 5-Inch Random Orbit Sander is its ergonometric body with small head and large body. Also course to fine sawdust producing. You need to buy the heavy duty yellow shop vac bags. Im interested in the Festool products..I’ve been doing tests on this project in smaller, isolated areas of the house with a cheapo Rigid Random Orbital..working fine..After reading this series of comments Im definitely of the mind that I need a complete system..daunting job. I tried to find any directions on the Ridgid site about taking the sander apart or a parts diagram but the search led to a dead end as did trying to buy parts. When the running shop vac was connected to the sander the vacuum sped up as if it was plugged up. As RO sanders generally exert positive pressure through their exhaust dust port, it doesn’t take a great deal of negative pressure from the dust collector to clear everything away. with regards to your Grizzly dust collector, I have noticed that my 2HP 220 V model requires the very fine bag to be able to match the dust-trapping performance of a dust extractor. You’ll get better performance from your tools and your lungs will thank you! I made a cyclone for my shop vac out of an old burned out shop vac with wheels But, I hooked it up to my 16 gallon Shop Vac with a dust bag and it worked great…no dust in the air. Its sort just stacks up in the vents and fan blades. The grip is comfortable and the sander is very easy to control. Thanks Jimmy. One of the fans will cool the motor while the other fan starts collecting the dust to make your work area clean and free of debris. I’m retired and new to wood working and have spouse approval to do this right. I concur on the filter bag/Hepa filter arrangement. Free shipping . If you do not have a bag, the HEPA filter in your vacuum will clog up and disintegrate in no time, and before you know it, you will have to replace it. The bags aren’t cheap, but it’s better than replacing an entire shop vac. Dust bags seem to be sort of waste of energy. Like Marc mentioned, a bag is very very important. All content on The Wood Whisperer is copyrighted, and may not be reprinted in full form without my written consent. I have hooked up a Ivac switch so when ever the tool of choice turns on the system starts. RIDGID R2740 Heavy Duty Variable Speed Belt Sander 3 in. I know, crime against tools. I’m actually on my second one now. One of these days I’ll upgrade to a Festool system. Always wear a dust mask whilst operating a belt sander as the fine dust particles … I generally don’t wear a respirator when I use this arrangement, and I don’t suffer for it. Unfortunately, that’s not the case. it sounds as tho whatever shop vac I get will largly replace my old dust collector. As you have worked out of a small shop before I have quick question. While a dust extractor such as Festool may be the IDEAL solution, I wince more than a little at the prospect of spending twice what I did for my 2hp dust collector on a single-purpose tool. The good news is that the shop vac now pulls in most of the dust and keeps the air passages clean. Options. With the MIDI I didn’t bother using my Triton hood and no dust. Now there is no hose or attachment configuration from whatever vendor that I cannot integrate. http://www.onedia-air.com. Exclusive. 9 offers from $99.16. Makes too much sense for me to ignore. Bob D. 2006. Furthermore, you could wind up starving your collector of air which puts extra wear and tear on the motor. Now if you are a guy using a belt sander all day long, I am not sure how this will work out for you. It works great taking the dust out before it is in the shop vac. I removed the black side covers and the bag fan is connected to the timer belt and spins when the sander is on. More surface area and less problems with air flow. Several people have seen this in my shop and are installing this smaller system. no dust control R2740 belt sander 06-13-2018, 06:37 PM This belt sander never collected anything in the dust bag. It helps tremendously, but doesn’t get all the dust. Thought I’d drop my 2c in as well – I concur with Bill particularly – irrespective of what dust collection you are using (household vac, HEPA vac, Festool etc), I still feed my suction through a (homemade) cyclone before it gets to the vacuum itself. Ridgid R2720 Belt Sander Replacement Dust Bag Assembly (2 Pack) # 300027054 $32.42. All parts are here with the exception of the 1/2" and 3/4" sanding sleeves (easily available on-line). I use rockers expandable 4 inch clear dust collection hose and I have a God awful smell in my garage and shop coming from dust collector hose! A down-draft table is certainly an option. I have the RIDGID branded one the dust bag is actually very good, the sander does an awesome job of collecting it’s own dust, I don’t generally use it with a vac. RIDGID BELT SANDER R2740 Timing Belt … Sanders do their job incredibly well which means they generate large clouds of dangerous fine dust particles in a hurry. After four hours of use the sander started to make sparks so it was taken apart again, the sealed outer motor bearing decided to seize and that melted the plastic dust cover. Metabo HPT SB8V2M 9.0-Amp Variable Speed Corded Belt Sander with Trigger Lock. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. Just upgraded to the Festool MIDI this week and wow. http://www.homedepot.com/p/RID.....5yc1vZc36d. A Twin Fan is installed in the machine that collects dust from the area in an efficient manner. I've found the 2 1/2 on the back works well enough for using the drums, but when using the belt it really benefits from another collection point at the end of the belt where it wants to shoot the dust off. I have yet to find a way to hook these smaller tools up to the big delta. All in all, though, the arrangement works just fine. I purchased this ridgid sander 2 days ago after reading a lot of great reviews. My 15 year old screamer shop vac finally broke. The paper lasts so much longer and I swear it sands faster. I thought I was the only one that would use the dyson in the shop. Safety Signal Words DANGER: means if the safety infor-mation is not followed someone will be seriously injured or killed. How do I tell what is the best setting. Fortunately it’s a spare vacuum, because it’s not working as well as I need. Home depot said that all these sanders have the same problem but Milwaukee ones are better at dust collection than the cloth bag ones, also the shroud at the bottom of the sandpaper disc has to be vacuumed clean and empty the bag often when it is about 20% full. There is one additional thing you can do to make your shop vac more effective at collecting dust and that’s to use a cyclone separator. If you don’t use a bag, your filter will clog up in a hurry. My Sears shop vac has a bag in it, but the bag does not get loaded up with the dust because the Dust Deputy takes it out before the dust gets into the bag. He reduced the noise by something like 25 decibels. The sparks were created by the motor armature spinning into the stator since the outer bearing wasn't contained by the melted dust cover. I have just never really considered them too practical because they are only effective on small scale parts. I did not use a hepa filter. By the way, the input here is terrific. Not sure about really high end tools but all three of my Dewalt sanders need to be hooked up to a vacuum or I end up looking like a powdered doughnut. Rigid does make bags for their shop vacs. $89.99. Don't know about Makita or Mafell or other high end brands, never used them, but I know my Festool sanders are top notch at dust collection. The bigget downside is that the last 12″ of the shop vac hose is rigid plastic, which makes manoeuvring the sander for anything other than flat work a bit of a challenge. DOH! Heavy-Duty Variable Speed Belt Sander with AIRGUARD Technology. Is Festool my best bet? It wasn’t until I installed the belt assembly onto the spindle that I … Many high-end belt sanders actually have dust ventilation systems included as a standard feature. My shop air and lungs have never been cleaner. All I need to do is measure design (using Sketchup) and print a coupler to fit… no need to ‘find correct fittings to adapt’. Although the suction seems pretty strong in 4″ piece of flex hose, performance take a huge dump when the pipe is reduced to the size of a typical sander’s dust port. This takes care of a good 99% (if not more) of the heavier particles, and means the vacuum collection and HEPA only has a very small amount of particles to deal with, and means their filters last a lot longer. Instead it’s for sucking up large items and even water. My question is have you ever had a problem with smell? The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. They are about $10 for 3, I think. In fact, I think if you already have a sander you are happy with, and you aren’t ready to upgrade, that’s a good way to go. The cyclonic collection system works very well on the high velocity vacuum systems (and you can make one yourself pretty easily). It was already set up so I made a tapered plywood top for the can and drilled a hole in it. my ancient dust collection system needs updating. I bought the vacuum hose kit so the sander could be attached to a shop vac as Mightyservant suggested. I really liked it because it isn't that heavy and yet quite powerful. Other brands of good quality and quiet vacuums or dust extractors include Fein and Festool. However there are two versions: there is one for a two inch hose and one with a 1.5 inch hose. I have been using a Oneida’s Dust Deputy along with my Sears shop vac along with my Delta Random Orbit sander for over a year now. The variable speed dial, 6.5 amp motor and automatic belt tracking to adjust belt to the center of platen are some of its handy features. Of course, he did not like me using it for that purpose. Mine was cheaper than $99. seems like a good idea. Hope that helps. I’ve used a Ridgid Oscillating Belt & Spindle Sander (4424) for years. wall– that cut sound of vac and puts all that fine dust outside. Does anyone know why this sander doesn't collect dust in the dust bag or how it is supposed to do so? This will save you a ton of time and steps. If you aren’t collecting that dust at the tool, you’re risking your health. The belt sander does not come with any belts upon purchase Product Summary Product: Ridgid ZRR2740 Belt Sander. The Wood Whisperer abides by word of mouth marketing standards and holds integrity in the highest regard. They are usually located right next to the filters at the home depot. I used a 4″ to 2.5″ reducer on the TS and fit was fine. Same goes for my Festool circular saw. That was my first Festool purchase (sander and vac). But hey, what are friends for? check out the. Unique Feature: Soft Grip Handles. with regards to consumables, I just buy the fine-dust replacement bags by Shopvac from Lowes whenever I run out. When put to wood, the RIDGID R2720 felt good in my hands, had excellent balance and was very easy to control. I ran 2 inch p.v.c. This is a very lightly used Ridgid Oscillating Edge Belt/Spindle Sander that is sitting in my shop collecting dust. If you aren’t collecting that dust at the tool, you’re risking your health. And… a trigger lock (thank you RIDGID!) So depending on what type of projects you work on, that certainly could be a viable way of utilizing the DC while sanding. I also use a Dust Deputy to front end my dust collectors (in fact I have 3 and one front ends – sits on top of my Festool CT33). Any suggestions? In my opinion, these bags are a REQUIREMENT for woodworkers. I sand on out on my driveway, on a windy day. Marc the biggest problem is relying on those filters. Yep, ideal. I might be confused on your question. When I first got my CT22 I hooked it up to my 5″ Festool ROS and turned the sander on. The part you are requesting has been discontinued, and … I would have given it a 5 star rating if it has better dust collection capability when the belt sander is used. I’m completely stumped. My solution to expensive dust extractor bags is to dedicate the dust extractor to the random orbit sander and use a Rigid shop vac without a bag for general clean up and stuff that generate larger dust and chips like router tables, track saw, etc. Even with the dust bag it grabs almost all the dust, when connected to the dust extractor nothing gets away from that thing. this will do 2 things – 1. will keep your HEPA filter clean and unclogged (I was pretty surprised after emptying the vac that the HEPA filter was practically clean with only very very fine dust on it) and 2. it’ll make it so much easier to empty your shop vac, and keep the dust from filling the air. If not, you can try pantihose over the filter. They clog up quickly and then leave dust all over. Have read your post, and it looks like you have the Ridgid model that is not for fine dust collection. Felt like an idiot but they really are that quiet. I am considering a festool, but am a little put off by the price, not just of the machine itself but of the accessories –. Cheapest Place to Buy: Amazon.com. I bought an extra HEPA filter for it but it gets so full of dust I have doubts about it’s effectiveness. H as electronic feedback that maintains the motor speed even under load. R2740 Belt Sander dust collection problem 01-10-2014, 08:31 PM. I was told that the reverse doesn’t work, 2.5 shop vac to 4″ port on large bandsaw, etc. My Grizzly is a 1029Z (2HP, 220v) which has a 2.5 micron bag. I’ve hooked my Porter-Cable Random Orbit sander to my ClearVue cyclone (with 5 hp motor and 1 micron filters) through a 2.25″ to 3.5″ to 6″ series of flexible hoses with great results. It’s only logical that someone would want to use a big dust collector to pull dust from smaller tools, right? pipe over head in the shop and made drops of 1 1/2 pipe at work locations with ball valves to isolate unused drops. Editor’s Rating: Durable This belt sander comes with a robust motor which means that it’s powerful enough to handle even the toughest jobs. #11 Best efficient dust collecting belt sander. or Best Offer. It is recommended to the belt sander users as it can work on the electric supply of 120 volts. 3 "×18" belt sander: Picks up dust effectively with its twin fan high efficiency dust collection which has one fan for cooling the motor and the other for collecting dust. I use a commercial grade 7 inch edger sander for subfloors before laying flooring and it picks up 95% of dust and never breaks open. Replace the timing belt by first attaching at the large pulley, then replace belt at the small pulleys by rotating the belt and forcing over the small pulleys. Make sure this fits by entering your model number. I was ready to pull the trigger on a Jet 708642BK DC­650BK ($310) thinking I could neck the 4″ down to whatever size I needed but it sounds like that’s not going to work for anything but the RO sander (See Cal Deobald’s comments). $84.01. I realized it was on when I turned off my ROS!!!! The reviews for this sander all say that there is good dust control. For the first 2 hours of use it was amazing. It’s not an Festoll or Fein, but for people on a budget, I can see it making a big difference in noise reduction. Then, in a small shop, there’s also the issue of adding another tool that wants to consume precious, limited floor space. Tear on the Wood Whisperer is copyrighted, and saw this difference that purpose and reused they. But that ’ s only logical that someone would want to use with minimal vibration at this.. 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